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Post  Sirop14 on Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:23 pm

Ukraine's political rights rating declined from 3 to 4 due to the authorities' efforts to ... courts, a crackdown on media, and the use of force to break up demonstrations. ... government actions were met with brutal crackdowns and arrests by police,

http://www.seychellesrealitytoday.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/brutal-crackdown-in-ukraine.html#comment-form

http://www.freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2012/ukraine-0

We have posted this Comment at the above  SFP Blog - those who know our Facebook is being hacked/manipulated and our link to som eof  Seychelles Facebook disconnected - we are addressing the issues in this Forum.

Comment - at SFP Blog

Dear Freedom House,

May we/I ask you and your institution by what rights and standard - do you/can you judge the capacity of a nation to contribute to global affairs. What we have written about those 21,000 exile/refugee form Seychelles beside the SPPF/government of Seychelles and the Local Opposition - we put together that SIROP program.

Because we are a small nation, lack the appropriate resource to mange that program it was hijacked when those form the USA<Britain and EU found it was workable. What they stood to gain. They had been adamant to change Seychelles by military force.

Just as France, Britain, the USA and Russia can develop sophisticated mechanism and management mechanism to change a given nation economic , political and social system - we had studied this and applied in the case of that SIROP program - We had linked and contributed to managing the link issues, the changes in the COMECON, in the USSR, China, OAU, Latin America, Asia and the gulf Region.

This include Ukraine.

There are those in Russia, EU, the USA who know if the issues of those former USSR countries Independence - how they used certain linking mechanism beside their own resource and capabilities - then they take all the credit with the highly corrupted media.

We have been instrumental and contributed to a number very complex Ukraine process - In  Britain/London next to the Libyan embassy in the British Ukrainian society /association - Professor, Dr,  Dentist Souyave have his Office and the church of St Paul the Seychelles community have been praying and attending form the past 30 years.

In Europe - Germany there those University who understand and develop the discipline study of the various mechanism used/applied in the COMECON, USSR, China, Latin America changing process.

Comment -  22/2/14 SFP Blog

It is important to read - the views of the many who compare the situation to Libya and others places including Iraq.

The crucial issues to ask everybody when those that is deemed corrupted and what have you,  been removed and a new Team put in power - the country needs is required to grasp the full complexities of running a highly competitive government, country and what it takes and will take - they will have to be compel to go down the same road. Safe in instance the previous president and government they have removed had been elected - what will happen to them.

We have just been listening to former PM Yulia Tymoshenko underlining what we have written and addressed above. Right at the outset of Ukraine independence and Privatization we had been involved and contributed to this process. Particularly the government of President Yushchenko.  A great deal went very wrong and events of 2008 in the West and the USA.

Given what we knew distance our working support for him - beside those who know EU had enough economic headache and those who know/knew he was being use to bring Ukraine into the EU Fold - many in the EU who work and manage such important issues did not agree.

We have addressed certain issues involved in high politic of the world - the mechanism/discipline those behind the coming to power of Yulia Tymoshenko  were using - had this method been applied in Libya and Iraq what the West would have said - the excess use and abuse of that " infernal satanic rage/mechanism in her media and surrounding, these are not values and benchmark of Europe may be Britain. If she found her demise it is because of what we stressed in public those who took note.

The High Institutions of EU then to forget very fast or have short memory  - already the Western media those of  Britain what they are saying.  She is back using the same old manipulative technique - wast everybody time, energy and resources.

We have also been listening closely to Ukraine Economic situation - the need to say the logic of accepting the Russian package as against EU.

Ukraine have only one option - default and go to the IMF/world Bank  and they will set stringent benchmark. There will be very deep cuts and they will have to pay for their gas at market price.

Any idea or talk of absorbing Ukraine in the EU as special case given the situation will be total lunacy. They will have to go through the pain of learning how to govern their country until they are ready and future events.

Note - we are going to add a comment from the FT, particularly the last part - when you get the leading British News paper publishing such article it mist be taken seriously - those hell bent on bring Russia into the EU fold and NATO command. It is utter madness and lunacy - We know the British people view of the EU and they want out of EU - yet they are hell bent upon doing everything that Russian is forced to its knees and brought into the EU and NATO - what kind of demented argument/logic is this.

Russia needs to be offered a ‘Finland option’ for Ukraine
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e855408c-9bf6-11e3-afe3-00144feab7de.html#axzz2u5VDY7RW


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Re: Brutal Crackdown in Ukraine‏

Post  Sirop14 on Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:09 pm

Thema: Ukraine-Krise Die Presse - Vienna

http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/1563377/UkraineKrise?_vl_backlink=/home/index.do

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Driften die Krim und der Osten der Ukraine ab?

Post  Sirop14 on Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:02 pm

Zerreißprobe für die Ukraine: Die Hochburgen von Janukowitschs "Partei der Regionen" im Osten und Süden des Landes sind nicht bereit, die Umwälzungen in der Hauptstadt Kiew akzeptieren.

http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/1566123/Driften-die-Krim-und-der-Osten-der-Ukraine-ab?direct=1563377&_vl_backlink=/home/index.do&selChannel=103

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Ukraine: Parlamentschef zum Übergangspräsidenten bestimmt

Post  Sirop14 on Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:29 pm

Das ukrainische Parlament hat seinen neuen Chef Alexander Turtschinow zum Übergangspräsidenten bestimmt. Er ist ein Vertrauter von Julia Timoschenko. Regulär soll der neue Staatspräsident am 25. Mai gewählt werden.

http://www.salzburg.com/nachrichten/welt/politik/sn/artikel/ukraine-parlamentschef-zum-uebergangspraesidenten-bestimmt-95610/

In der Ukraine besetzten die Gegner des abgesetzten Präsidenten Viktor Janukowitsch am Wochenende wichtige Positionen: Eine Schlüsselrolle spielte die erst aus der Haft entlassene Julia Timoschenko. Ihr Vertrauter, der erst am Samstag gekürte neue Parlamentspräsident Alexander Turtschinow ist am Sonntag zum Übergangspräsidenten des Landes gewählt worden.

http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/1566249/Ukraine_Parlamentschef-wird-Uebergangspraesident?_vl_backlink=/home/politik/aussenpolitik/1563377/index.do&direct=1563377

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Re: Brutal Crackdown in Ukraine‏

Post  Sirop14 on Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:36 pm

Dear SFP Founder - Mr Christopher Gill, had we been in that Sechelles Seychelles 40 years ago and you had been a Minister or the such to address the issues to you one would have required an appointment if granted, today we have such possibility with the Facebook platform and the many friends, public and rest of the world police and other officials watching and monitoring  and onlooking.

I addressed the massive efforts I made in summer 2013 to get the UNHCR, relevant EU Refugee and exile organization and the French embassy in Seychelles to get me /my person resettle under the due UNHCR protocol. the Results and those who oppose this.

My question to you  and e everybody in Seychelles - I have addressed President Putin more then one occasion  to help me by granting me an adequate document to go and settle in Russia, that was before the Wikileak issues and Snowden and the Depardieu debacle.

Before we went to exile in 1976 - we took the pain to talk and address our respective talk with several Ministers, former Head of Police, Priest, families, Judiciary, doctors, leading Planters, then SPPF officials, Mr Albert Rene, Mr Jacques Hodoul - all those who judge we may to have been seeing clearly or under pressure - events which followed.

We have noted when the slightest incident happen with the person of Mr Ralph Volcer how you all go to his help - the need to be very blunt a times - what we have done for this nation and the world yet the attitude of everybody.

We have Seychellois/members of our community who have gone to settle/live in former East Europe.  We are not cowards/were not, those who could have mounted a military operation, we preferred to go away - there are those who have live and work this life  and the good reason across the ages so they understand and have knowledge when it is ask of them. Had we stayed in Seychelles - that Seychelles would have turned out differently, because what we knew, involved and high time we utter,  represented - the same should we have to migrate to Russia.

To this end/conclusion it is not just in Seychelles we have challenges in convincing others - across Europe and former East Europe,Russia equally difficult - yet when we take action and personal initiative - influence events and issues importantly - the corrupted system, benchmark ready to just in and explain they were responsible and contributed and took the decision.
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Had we been allowed to travel and reside in Russia - the respective Illuminati, Templar, Fraternal and masonic Institutions of Europe, among nation Ukraine would have be in the situation it is today and others. ( Beside then British Colonial official we had explained and talked about situation in then Seychelles of 1976, we had a number of USAF acquaintance what we shared and explained , what they knew and a number of leading merchants families - including the Jivan Family.)We have addressed issues before Wikileak and Snowden - back in the early 80's then Cold War, then issues of the Cambridge five, Mrs Thatcher Cabinet and this country's workings - the Earl of Oxford/Lord Oxford knew of our person connections - what the media was/were writing at the time and what they will/may never know - everybody choose to forget/particularly this Conservative coalition. Beside the books which have been written and at least two or three important related film. The untold version/issues.

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Post  Sirop14 on Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:58 pm

Given that we are block/excluded from the mainstream media - the people of Ukraine, Europe have a right to know and trust Mr Christopher Gill you will support this.  We have just read that Klitschko brothers - one then will run for President of Ukraine - We have been involved in  big Sporting issues among them boxing, some of the very big names and what the world read as they winning a big match and the issues they did not know - for instance the incident of that boxer biting the ears of another boxer, beside several of the matches - what the real issues were. Those  who know and have known such workings for the past 25 or more years. Because of the dishonesty we are compel to say /share the number of fights - he has won on the back of the information/discipline we work and represent in the sport - we can make a list. Like so many after we have helped them become famous how they turn round and become nasty - no respect for the discipline and issues we work and manage - then we have an example of  Micheal Schumacher and those who then put their explanation forward - he ought to know and the respective Fraternal/archaic institutions of Ukraine he will have to serve and work with that you need to respect and give credit to the source and power that have build and made you famous - that source and power reserve the rights to refuse any future support of your person or those associated.  The EU Institutions, the White House, the USA Service ought know beside those of President Putin.  What cause our anger with the former female PM who was Jailed be had contributed to broker that Russian pipe/Oil and Gas deal - those who will call upon such expertise and resource - when the deal is done/cut then they pretend it never took place and the accountability mechanism to regulate and control such workings. When it is applied what take place. (We ask/request those who can get Mrs Jemaima Goldsmith Khan to come in and share her respective views) What about former Chancellor Gerhard Schroder - he knew of the issues - he was in Office then.

{" Those/the many out there it is alright for us to keep quiet and such issues when they are cashing in and telling the world another version of how they got there and why"}

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klitschko_brothers


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2013/12/16/vitali-klitschko-quits-boxing-to-run-for-president-of-ukraine/

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/24/world/europe/ukraine-boxer-president/

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Re: Brutal Crackdown in Ukraine‏

Post  Sirop14 on Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:38 pm

Ukraine Parliament approves pro-EU Yatsenyuk as premier
Last Updated: Thursday, February 27, 2014, 19:00

Kiev: Ukraine's parliament on Thursday approved the nomination of pro-EU Arseniy Yatsenyuk as the crisis-hit country's new prime minister until presidential polls are held in May.



Yatsenyuk was one of the most prominent leaders of the three-month anti-government protests that swept Ukraine, culminating in deadly violence last week that precipitated the ouster of president Viktor Yanukovych and the collapse of his entire government.

AFP
http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/ukraine-parliament-approves-pro-eu-yatsenyuk-as-premier_914594.html

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Re: Brutal Crackdown in Ukraine‏

Post  Sirop14 on Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:40 pm

Ukraine crisis: President Turchynov warns against 'military aggression' in Crimea

Russia sent fighter jets to patrol the border with Ukraine today, as the interim president warned any movements of its troops from their Crimea naval base will be considered an act of "military aggression".

Meanwhile, a Russian news organisation said the country was providing shelter for ousted president Viktor Yanukovych in a Kremlin sanatorium just outside of Moscow.

Ukrainian interim President Olexander Turchynov condemned the takeover of government and parliament buildings in Crimea as a "crime against the government of Ukraine" following a seizure by pro-Russian activists in the early hours of this morning.

He warned the military will use "all methods necessary" to protect citizens shortly before the Ukrainian parliament approved the formation of a national coalition government.

He said: "Unidentified people with automatic weapons, explosives and grenades have taken over the governmental buildings and the Parliament building in the autonomous region of Crimea.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-crisis-president-turchynov-warns-against-military-aggression-in-crimea-9157440.html

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Ukraine: Russian military blocking airport

Post  Sirop14 on Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:02 am

Ukraine: Russian military blocking airport

   Blockading airport in Black Sea port of Sevastopol in Crimea
   Ukraine's new interior minister branded the act an 'armed invasion'
   Russia granted shelter to Ukraine's fugitive president Viktor Yanukovych
   Yanukovych has a news conference scheduled today

Russian military forces are blockading an airport in the Black Sea port of Sevastopol in Crimea, an act Ukraine's new interior minister has announced branded an 'armed invasion.'

As events in the Crimea region heighten tensions with neighboring Russia, this morning armed men also took over the other main Crimean airport, Simferopol, according to a Facebook post by Mr Avakov.

The Russian foreign ministry refused to comment while a spokesman for the Russian defense ministry was not available for comment.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2569934/Ukraine-Russian-military-blocking-airport.html#ixzz2ubcIuPiJ
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Avakov says two Crimean airports taken over by Russian army
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/avakov-says-two-crimean-airports-taken-over-by-russian-army-337863.html

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Ukraine crisis live: Russia admits its troops are moving in Crimea

Post  Sirop14 on Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:06 pm

Ukraine crisis live: Russia admits its troops are moving in Crimea

Journalists in Crimea have spotted a convoy of nine Russian armored personnel carriers and a truck on a road between the port city of Sevastopol and the regional capital, Sinferopol.

The Russian tricolor flags were painted on the vehicles, which were parked on the side of the road near the town of Bakhchisarai, apparently because one of them had mechanical problems.

Russia is supposed to notify Ukraine of any troop movements outside the naval base it maintains in Sevastopol under a lease agreement with Ukraine.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10666893/Ukraine-crisis-live-Russia-admits-its-troops-are-moving-in-Crimea.html

Ukraine crisis: Latest updates

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26380336

Yanukovych Denounces Role of the West in Ukraine Crises
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/yanukovych-denounces-role-of-the-west-in-ukraine-crises/495416.html

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Re: Brutal Crackdown in Ukraine‏

Post  Sirop14 on Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:13 pm


Russland: Duma will Anschluss der Krim vorbereiten
http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/1568659/Russland_Duma-will-Anschluss-der-Krim-vorbereiten?direct=1563377&_vl_backlink=/home/index.do&selChannel=103


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Re: Brutal Crackdown in Ukraine‏

Post  Sirop14 on Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:16 pm

Ianoukovitch : l'Ukraine est aux mains de «jeunes néo-fascistes»

http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2014/02/27/01003-20140227LIVWWW00098-ukraine-crimee-russie-simferopol-drapeau-russe.php

FMI, Union européenne : qui va payer pour l'Ukraine?
http://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/economie/2014/02/28/31007-20140228ARTFIG00264-fmi-union-europeenne-qui-va-payer-pour-l-ukraine.php

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After Initial Triumph, Ukraine’s Leaders Face Battle for Credibility

Post  Sirop14 on Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:55 pm

KIEV, Ukraine — The United States and the European Union have embraced the revolution here as another flowering of democracy, a blow to authoritarianism and kleptocracy in the former Soviet space. But successful revolutions, as the interim government here has been learning, are a lot harder to maintain than it can seem in the bright dawn of first victories.

The challenges for Ukraine’s new leaders are many and varied. With President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia now openly intent on a military showdown over control of Crimea, the government faces a powerful test of Ukraine’s territorial integrity. Demonstrations are growing in the Russian-speaking east of the country, underscoring the tenuous nature of the government’s control there. Washington and Brussels, Kiev’s only hopes at this point for the aid necessary to avert economic collapse, are scrambling to deliver and have shown no desire for an armed confrontation with Russia.

As it met for the first time on Saturday in an air of crisis, the new government also faced questions of credibility, legitimacy and inclusiveness arising from the way in which it came to power.

“You have a revolution, with unelected guys seizing power,” said Andrew Wilson, a Ukraine expert at the European Council on Foreign Relations.

“The people on the Maidan might be right, they might be martyrs, and they have good arguments, but no one elected them,” he said. “You need to get real politics and competition and more legitimacy. Of course, the counterargument is just concentrate on economy. But the credibility question is tearing the country apart and the transfer of power cut a lot of corners constitutionally.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/02/world/europe/after-initial-triumph-ukraines-leaders-face-battle-for-credibility.html?_r=0

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Re: Brutal Crackdown in Ukraine‏

Post  Sirop14 on Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:57 pm

Präsident Putin bläst zum Militäreinsatz zur "Verteidigung" der russischen Bürger auf der Halbinsel Krim. Die Kontrolle wurde defacto schon übernommen. Moskau nutzt die Gunst der Stunde, die Ukraine zu bestrafen.

01.03.2014 | 18:12 | von Jutta Sommerbauer (Simferopol) (Die Presse)

Simferopol ist im Winter ein ruhiger Ort. Aber jetzt ist die Ruhe unheimlich. „Die Ruhe vor dem Sturm“, sagt Vadim vielsagend. Der 20-Jährige sitzt mit seiner Freundin Anna am betonierten Ufer des Flüsschens Salgir, das durch Simferopol fließt. Die Hauptstadt der Krim ist ein leidlich romantischer Ort. Es ist ein Durchzugsort der Urlauber, die im Sommer möglichst schnell weiter an die Schwarzmeerküste wollen.

http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/1569313/Die-schleichende-Uebernahme-der-Krim?_vl_backlink=/home/politik/aussenpolitik/1563377/index.do&direct=1563377

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Le recours à l'armée russe en Ukraine voté

Post  Sirop14 on Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:02 pm

"Tout doit être fait pour éviter une intervention" Hollande

La décision du Conseil de la Fédération de Russie d'autoriser l'envoi de troupes russes en Ukraine "fait peser des menaces réelles sur l'intégrité territoriale et la souveraineté de l'Ukraine", a estimé François Hollande.

"Tout devait être fait pour éviter une intervention extérieure et les risques d'une escalade éminemment dangereuse", selon un communiqué de la présidence. Cette déclaration fait suite à un entretien que François Hollande a eu samedi avec le premier ministre polonais Donald Tusk.

http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2014/02/27/01003-20140227LIVWWW00098-ukraine-crimee-russie-simferopol-drapeau-russe.php

Violences contre les partisans du gouvernement dans l'est de l'Ukraine

http://video.lefigaro.fr/figaro/video/violences-contre-les-partisans-du-gouvernement-dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine/3276230746001/

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Ukraine: there's no way out unless the west understands its past mistakes

Post  Sirop14 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:19 am

Comment: At last we are getting a bit/some of the many debate, social platforms, network addressed, discussed debate about events in USSR and the COMECON  during the changes and after.  Unfortunately - the science in place to program , control and manipulate the minds of those humans and civilization in the West, the manner and methods they use and are using - only a very small percentage will understand and grasp what is really happening until it is very late

In the Sechelles - Seychelles for the past 15 years we have had a Community of Ukraine, they have know of the issue and SIROP program, just as the Ukraine community in Hounslow and London know of the  Seychelles community and that SIROP program and as an ethnic community and those with EU, British passport how they work and their representation of our French and European ancestral workings.

In the Seychelles proper, the Seychelles four Oppositions parties have know of the existence of the Ukraine community, their attitude - the many issues we have been addressing the past 20 years, what amount to dishonesty prevailing then on the Blogs the terrible comments. It is a shame that such people/individuals have been given the possibilities to express their view on Blogs and public - those who cannot think and refuse to think and research accept the comments they write about.  The observation of the Ukraine in the Seychelles, the manner and approach they use,  work and the outcome - our Australia, Europe, Canada/USA Seychelles community. Respective views.

Beside the issues of Lord Oxford and his sons, the Ukraine/Russian church and the British Ukrainian society - in the past it was customary that we would meet or try and meet and exchange ideas, notes - the utter arrogance which have engulf many of those former East Europe and Soviet Communities in Britain, France, Austria, Germany and Italy - they forget they alone dint liberate their country from communism.

Just as the SDA Adventist church in Seychelles do not represent a true image/reflection of Seychelles Society so too the Russian/Ukrainian SDA Church in Britain and elsewhere, do not refuse to reflect a true picture of their country and society - the reality.

Ukrainian expatriates in the Seychelles
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http://www.expat-blog.com/en/nationalities/ukrainian/in/africa/seychelles/

Foreign Embassies and Consulates in Ukraine
http://embassy.goabroad.com/embassies-in/ukraine

Ukrainian Community Society of Ivan Franko
http://www.ivanfranko.ca/itoolkit.asp?pg=contact

Orthodox Christians in Seychelles celebrate the birth of Christ - spc.rs
http://www.spc.rs/eng/orthodox_christians_seychelles_celebrate_birth_christ

Bethel Pentecostal Church - Missions
http://www.betheldc.ca/missions/index.php


Ukraine: there's no way out unless the west understands its past mistakes


Western leaders mostly paint the whole dispute as totally one-sided: it is all Russia’s fault. But the Crimea crisis is directly related to the misguided steps taken after the Soviet Union’s fall

After the fall of the Soviet Union, many hoped the cold war ideology could be put behind, and that the powers could work for a more co-operative and a better world. Nato had done its job.

There were many ways in which the former members of the Soviet Union in eastern Europe could have been given security for the future. Nato chose to provide that security by moving eastward to the borders of Russia. The then president, Gorbachev, in negotiating with secretary of state, James Baker, had insisted that Nato should not move one foot east – this was an area of traditional Russian influence. President Clinton pushed to expand the Nato alliance to the very borders of Russia. There was talk of Ukraine and Georgia being included.

The move east, despite the negotiations held with Gorbachev, was provocative, unwise and a very clear signal to Russia: we are not willing to make you a co-operative partner in the management of European or world affairs; we will exercise the power available to us and you will have to put up with it.

The message was re-emphasised years later, when President Bush sought to place elements of the anti-ballistic missile system in Poland and the Czech Republic. America said this was aimed at Iran. Russia would not have believed that. The west was acting as though the cold war still persisted.

What happened a while ago in Georgia, and what is happening now in Crimea, grows directly from those early mistakes made by the west. The west has been angling over the years to draw Ukraine into Nato. It has been doing whatever it could to support a pro-European government in the Ukraine, and to oppose or to bring down a pro-Russian government.

In January, Seumas Milne described those fighting against the then government. If but a small part of what he then said was correct, the west has once again chosen some unsavoury partners and that does not augur well for the future. Milne then described the elements then fighting the government as pro-fascist, pro-nazi, anti-Jew.

The west has again been flat-footed and unprepared. There is a significant Russia minority in Ukraine; Russia would be bound to take steps to protect that minority. In addition, if Putin thought that the west was angling to get the Ukraine into Nato, he certainly would have taken steps as he has to guarantee access to the Black Sea ports in Crimea and to safeguard military establishments which could be used to threaten that access.

To protect assets in Crimea will always be a Russian objective. Western leaders and western media mostly paint the whole dispute as totally one-sided: it is all Russia’s fault, and Putin is preventing a true democracy emerging. The steps taken in the early days after the fall of the Soviet Union, the breach of what Gorbachev (I accept almost certainly mistakenly) believed to be a firm agreement that Nato would not move east, was bound to create difficulties for the future.

There will be no way out of this, unless the history and the west’s past mistakes are understood by those who are trying to grapple with the present intractable, difficult and extraordinarily dangerous problem.

There is another aspect of this which should give western powers even greater concern for the future. The US has embarked on what many regard as a foolish and dangerous policy in the western pacific: a policy of containment of China. Even Joseph Nye, a former Pentagon official, has said containment is the wrong approach to a rising China – the US policy should be one of co-operation. There have been discussions about possible strategic arrangements between China and Russia. Are the mistaken policies of the US and the unfolding drama in Ukraine going to push both Russia and China towards a strategic partnership?

Those who thought the cold war was over and hoped for a better world are being proved to be wrong. Those in charge of current policy are showing an inadequate understanding of the events unfolding before their eyes, and an inability to work co-operatively to guide the world more safely.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/03/ukraine-theres-no-way-out-unless-the-west-understands-its-past-mistakes

Ukraine crisis leaves Obama with little room to manoeuvre
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/ukraine-crisis-leaves-obama-with-little-room-to-manoeuvre/article17190647/

Global stocks hit by Ukraine war threat
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/03/03/us-markets-global-idINBRE96S00E20140303

Markets Tumble As Ukraine Tensions Escalate
http://news.sky.com/story/1220031/markets-tumble-as-ukraine-tensions-escalate

Just as those who accused and knew the many wrong decision PM tony Blair government and took and the Iraq War - the Conservative obsessiveness of control and dominance and their politic - this importantly led to this situation - just as Blair government was brought down over the issues of Iraq in particular it is time the Conservative Government is brought down on the many unwarranted and wars issues over the past 3/4 years.

There is a malaise and issues in this Europe going way back to 1980's for all the Social network, communication - a problem with the European Brain - their sheer numbers as against the British and yet time and time they land in crises and terrible situation because they refuse to think use their grey matter and address debate as European must do not a flock of sheep and cattle or herd of Swines


Ukraine is Europe's biggest crisis of century - Hague
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26415789

Putin says Russia can use "all means" in Ukraine
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/putin-says-russia-can-use/1020452.html


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Live-Ticker: "Ukraine wird die Krim niemals preisgeben"

http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/1569692/LiveTicker_Ukraine-wird-die-Krim-niemals-preisgeben?_vl_backlink=/home/index.do

Truppenaufmarsch gegenüber der Krim
http://kurier.at/politik/ausland/ukraine-live-blog-truppenaufmarsch-gegenueber-der-krim/54.119.778

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«L'Ukraine ne cèdera jamais la Crimée»
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2014/03/03/01003-20140303LIVWWW00038-ukraine-le-g7-condamne-la-russie-et-arrete-les-preparatifs-du-g8.php


L'Occident face au spectre d'une seconde guerre froide
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2014/03/02/01003-20140302ARTFIG00172-l-occident-face-au-spectre-d-une-seconde-guerre-froide.php

« L'opération russe en Ukraine risque de s'étendre bien au-delà de la Crimée »
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2014/03/02/01003-20140302ARTFIG00195-l-operation-russe-en-ukraine-risque-de-s-etendre-bien-au-dela-de-la-crimee.php

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USA stoppen militärische Zusammenarbeit mit Russland

http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/1570147/USA-stoppen-militaerische-Zusammenarbeit-mit-Russland-?direct=1570166&_vl_backlink=/home/index.do&selChannel=103

Krim-Krise: Russlands Wirtschaft droht ein Nullwachstum
http://diepresse.com/home/wirtschaft/international/1570356/KrimKrise_Russland-droht-Nullwachstum?_vl_backlink=/home/index.do

Ukraine: Ansturm auf die Banken
http://diepresse.com/home/wirtschaft/international/1570015/Ukraine_Ansturm-auf-die-Banken?_vl_backlink=/home/index.do

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Quand Moscou menace Wall Street d'un krach
http://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/2014/03/04/20002-20140304ARTFIG00170-quand-moscou-menace-wall-street-d-un-krach.php

China urges political solution in Ukraine
http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014-03/02/content_17315845.htm

Ukraine crisis hits Poland's economy
http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2014-03/04/content_17319627.htm

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Summary of What is the situation with Russia, Ukraine, and Crimea? What does it have to do with the USA?
https://plus.google.com/+MartijnVreugde/posts/5AGK8S4p9b5

Kiev, Moscow start consultations over tensions
http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2014-03/05/content_17322664.htm

En Crimée, la tentation de détacher la presqu'île de l'Ukraine
http://www.lefigaro.fr/mon-figaro/2014/03/04/10001-20140304ARTFIG00343-en-crimee-la-tentation-de-detacher-la-presqu-ile-de-l-ukraine.php

EU kündigt 11-Milliarden-Euro-Hilfspaket an
http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/1563377/UkraineKrise?_vl_backlink=/home/index.do

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Kiev snipers hired by Maidan leaders - leaked EU's Ashton phone tape
http://rt.com/news/ashton-maidan-snipers-estonia-946/


British EU chief hears Ukraine shooting claim in bugged call
http://www.channel4.com/news/ukraine-catherine-ashton-phone-shoot-maidan-bugged-leaked

Ukraine crisis: UN envoy 'threatened by gunmen' in Crimea - live
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10677370/Ukraine-Russia-crisis-live.html

Estonia confirms authenticity of Paet-Ashton conversation on Kiev snipers
http://histoireetsociete.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/estonia-confirms-authenticity-of-paet-ashton-conversation-on-kiev-snipers/

Estonia Prime Minister: Evidence Shows Maidan Leaders Behind Snipers in Kiev
http://www.thedailydigest.org/2014/03/05/estonia-prime-minister-evidence-shows-maidan-leaders-behind-snipers-in-kiev-2/

BREAKING! Kiev snipers hired by new coalition, not Yanukovych - Estonian FM to EU chief Ashton
http://www.sott.net/article/275047-BREAKING-Kiev-snipers-hired-by-new-coalition-not-Yanukovych-Estonian-FM-to-EU-chief-Ashton


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Kiev snipers hired by Maidan leaders - leaked EU's Ashton phone tape
http://rt.com/news/ashton-maidan-snipers-estonia-946/


British EU chief hears Ukraine shooting claim in bugged call
http://www.channel4.com/news/ukraine-catherine-ashton-phone-shoot-maidan-bugged-leaked

Ukraine crisis: UN envoy 'threatened by gunmen' in Crimea - live
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10677370/Ukraine-Russia-crisis-live.html

Estonia confirms authenticity of Paet-Ashton conversation on Kiev snipers
http://histoireetsociete.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/estonia-confirms-authenticity-of-paet-ashton-conversation-on-kiev-snipers/

Estonia Prime Minister: Evidence Shows Maidan Leaders Behind Snipers in Kiev
http://www.thedailydigest.org/2014/03/05/estonia-prime-minister-evidence-shows-maidan-leaders-behind-snipers-in-kiev-2/

BREAKING! Kiev snipers hired by new coalition, not Yanukovych - Estonian FM to EU chief Ashton
http://www.sott.net/article/275047-BREAKING-Kiev-snipers-hired-by-new-coalition-not-Yanukovych-Estonian-FM-to-EU-chief-Ashton

Comment - We have just listened AlJazzera news about NATO secretary general Announcement - particularly the part where NATO is offering its direct involvement in the Military other related institutions of Ukraine and civilian. We were around when the crucial decision to scarp NATO or not and to give it a new role as such we ought to know a very great deal more. "President Putin beside your Training as a leading former Intelligence Office - my/our request for help just as Gerard Depardieu ask for a place,  permission to stay in Russia and you/Russia gave him that permission and we have been asking for help to migrate form Britain and how this would have impacted Europe, NATO and your own Country workings and your refusal" -  What will Russia and China Reaction  be to this situation and development - there will be greater efforts to destabilize Russia and it will get out of hand - what history will write. This decision in the face of many serious debate going on in Europe by NATO is very wrong. This is not Democracy - it is not the Rule of Law.

We would like to stress/underline - we had played a leading role in the concept of setting up an ICC, the manner greater politic works and taken up by politicians shortly after the fall of USSR and the COMECON, it was designed for trying only African politicians and Head of State those/the many European who are involved and lend their Powers and position to situation like former Yugoslavia, events of the North African Spring those European Powers involved and now this situation in Ukraine. Those big Media group and the big multinationals - including NATO, UN High Officials , including EU Officials- "Our high archaic, fraternal, Illuminati, Templar, Masonic workings was/were involved in the process".  


International Criminal Court
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court

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Crimea votes to join Russia, accelerating Ukraine crisis

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Crimea votes to join Russia, accelerating Ukraine crisis
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/03/06/uk-ukraine-idUKBREA1H0EM20140306

Ukraine crisis: Crimea Russia referendum to be held on 16 March
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-or-russia-crimea-referendum-to-be-held-on-16-march-9173038.html

Ukraine crisis: Crimea parliament asks to join Russia
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26465962

Parlament für Anschluss an Russland
http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/1563377/UkraineKrise?_vl_backlink=/home/index.do

Parlament für Anschluss an Russland
http://kurier.at/politik/ausland/live-blog-vor-krisengipfel-krim-parlament-fuer-anschluss-an-russland/54.673.690


Le parlement de Crimée demande son rattachement à la Russie
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2014/03/03/01003-20140303LIVWWW00038-ukraine-le-g7-condamne-la-russie-et-arrete-les-preparatifs-du-g8.php

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Aux  Sechelles Seychelles au cours des 5 dernières années, les questions de la participation Quatar, les questions de pirate somalien et les Seychellois qui tourne en dérision le fonctionnement collectif de l'Union africaine - la question de nombreux citoyens et électeurs de l'UE - ont ce virus mental engloutir l'ensemble de la Commission européenne et directive - la décision de buldoze une UE - Ukraine protocole d'association est pire que ce que la reine Elisabeth de Royaume-Uni descripteur "Anus horribilus" cela va être d'association " UE - Ukraine horribilus." Ils sont allés fou.

In Sechelles Seychelles over the past 5 years the issues of Qatar involvement, the Somali Pirate issues and those Seychellois who lampoons the African Union collective workings - the question many citizens and voters in EU - have this mental virus engulf the whole of the EU Commission and Directive - the decision to bulldoze  an EU - Ukraine Association Protocol is worse than what queen Elizabeth of United Kingdom describer "Anus horribilus" this is going to be Association EU - Ukraine horribilus. They have gone bonkers


L'UE va signer l'accord d'association avec l'Ukraine
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2014/03/03/01003-20140303LIVWWW00038-ukraine-le-g7-condamne-la-russie-et-arrete-les-preparatifs-du-g8.php#190240

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